BETA test for 29bit init protocol

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:51 am

Jirkus wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:14 pm
Still not working, but using the 29bit ID (protocol 7 for ELM) your ECU replies always with CAN ERROR while using the 11bit ID (protocol 6 for ELM) the ECU replies sometime with a correct answer and sometime with the error of "serviceNotSupported". So the 29bit ID is wrong for sure, but I don't understand why the 11 bit doesn't work too. What's your ELM adapter?
misiakpb wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:27 am
Working ..
Log with regeneration ..
Vag_DPF_log1.7z
Everything's fine, your engine DSUD is definitely supported.

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by misiakpb » Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:07 am

Thank you

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:35 pm

I use this ELM
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:46 pm

Jirkus wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:35 pm
I use this ELM
And today this log :

ECU responds to OBD2 requests but not to CAN ISO-15765 requests.

Possible causes:
- engine not supported
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality

**INIT LOG**
4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2LATZ\r\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r\r>Z
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323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r\r>Z
4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2LATZ\r\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X
415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r\r>Z
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by glowas » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:14 pm

Some good news, on Octavia 23 DTUA started working on 97 group with error message on the beginning.
Closing this message allows to check current parameters, so this seems to be fine.
I will keep testing and let you know.

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by gusiak11 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:20 pm

Congratulations to the author of the program for successfully connecting to the DTUA engine
although at the beginning it sent some list of errors, I thought it was nothing, but after a while everything turned green and it connected to the computer
Attached is a list of errors and a screenshot showing that the program works with this engine
Thanks again and best regards

Unable to communicate with engine ECU even with OBD2 protocol.

Possible causes:
- Car ignition off
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality
- Car not OBD2 compliant

*INIT LOG*

4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\r>Y

41545AI2LATZ\r\r\rELM327 v2.3\r\r>Y

415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y

41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y

41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y

41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y

41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y

4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y

41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y

41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y

4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y

30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X

30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X

30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X

30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X

415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X

41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X

41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X

4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X

415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X

41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X

4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:38 am

Jirkus wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:35 pm
I use this ELM
I own exactly the same adapter, at least the same external case, and it doesn't work with my car. It often refuses to manage a multi line can packets adding NO DATA in the second line. It's a very low quality adapter, it works only with OBD2 protocol with 2-bytes PIDs and single line packets.
My advise is to find a good adapter, otherwise we can't understand if the issue is in the code or in the adapter. As you can see, other users have good results with the beta protocol, the code works for engine codes DTUA, DXNB and DSUD.

glowas wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:14 pm
Some good news, on Octavia 23 DTUA started working on 97 group with error message on the beginning.
Closing this message allows to check current parameters, so this seems to be fine.
I will keep testing and let you know.
Very good. No urgency, please send me a screenshot of the app connected and running, it's for my database. Thanks

gusiak11 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:20 pm
Congratulations to the author of the program for successfully connecting to the DTUA engine
although at the beginning it sent some list of errors, I thought it was nothing, but after a while everything turned green and it connected to the computer
Attached is a list of errors and a screenshot showing that the program works with this engine
Thanks again and best regards
The error is due to a NO DATA response to the request 0100 that I send to check if the ECU replies to a common OBD2 PID, just to understand if there is communication. Your ECU doesn't respond, but then it goes on without problems so probably, for 29bit ID, the request 0100 isn't correct or can't be sent. I need to investigate. At the moment the BETA engine group has an aggressive error log management, so every error raises up a popup to let the user copy and paste the init log, otherwise I can't know what's happening. In one of next releases I'll add another engine group containing the working engine types, but removing all these error messages.

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:50 am

I see, what adapter would you recommend? For example ?
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:06 pm

I own the K903 that worked fine with my old car, but using the 11bit id protocol.
Never used with new beta 29bit id protocol, but it should work I think.

Another good adapter is the Carista one, but it's more expensive.

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:40 pm

Another test and this is result:

Unable to communicate with engine ECU even with OBD2 protocol.

Possible causes:
- Car ignition off
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality
- Car not OBD2 compliant

**INIT LOG**
4154505046464F4646I2LOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2L\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:41 pm

Jirkus wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:40 pm
Another test and this is result:

Unable to communicate with engine ECU even with OBD2 protocol.

Possible causes:
- Car ignition off
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality
- Car not OBD2 compliant

**INIT LOG**
4154505046464F4646I2LOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2L\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
30313030G1HNO DATA\r\r>X
415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X
The data does not start at the selected time, when I have 3sec. But I always have to press ,, refresh"

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:48 pm

So did you test with a different adapter?

I see you enabled the saving of the log file, can you share that file?

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by gusiak11 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:52 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:06 pm
I own the K903 that worked fine with my old car, but using the 11bit id protocol.
Never used with new beta 29bit id protocol, but it should work I think.

Another good adapter is the Carista one, but it's more expensive.
In the Superb from 2016, v-gate works without any problem, but it has an 11-bit protocol
In a '22 Octavia. with the 29bit protocol something is already starting to work, unfortunately it's not my car so I can't test it properly, I can only connect once in a while
The second V-gate sensor will arrive tomorrow and the owner of the Octavia can say something more then.

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by misiakpb » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:24 pm

Jirkus wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:50 am
I see, what adapter would you recommend? For example ?
The second one ...
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by Jirkus » Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:51 am

admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:48 pm
So did you test with a different adapter?

Yes, but i have problem with automatically refresh, as I wrote

I see you enabled the saving of the log file, can you share that file?
I don't find it...

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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:53 pm

Jirkus wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:51 am
admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:48 pm
So did you test with a different adapter?

Yes, but i have problem with automatically refresh, as I wrote

I see you enabled the saving of the log file, can you share that file?
I don't find it...
The first time you enable the logging, the app asks you the permissions to save the file and the folder you want. In that folder you'll find a txt file that's the log.
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by glowas » Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:04 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:38 am
glowas wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:14 pm
Some good news, on Octavia 23 DTUA started working on 97 group with error message on the beginning.
Closing this message allows to check current parameters, so this seems to be fine.
I will keep testing and let you know.
Very good. No urgency, please send me a screenshot of the app connected and running, it's for my database. Thanks
Below are the screenshots for your records - one from the regular drive and one from DPF burnout. We can assume that Octavia 2023 DTUA is fully supported.
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by eulogitos » Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:17 pm

Good news for formentor 2.0 tdi DTTC after the error message it connects
Unable to communicate with engine ECU even with OBD2 protocol.

Possible causes:
- Car ignition off
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality
- Car not OBD2 compliant

**INIT LOG**
4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2LATZ\r\r\rELM327 v2.2\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535036I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1H7E8064100981B8013\r7E906410098180001\r\r>X
41545348374530G1HOK\r\r>X
31303033M3N7E8037F1011\r\r>Z
31303033M3N7E8037F1011\r\r>Z
31303033M3N7E8037F1011\r\r>Z
31303033M3N7E8037F1011\r\r>Z
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30393032M3N7E81014490201565353\r7E8215A5A5A4B4D5A4E\r7E82252303632323938\r\r>Z
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323246383032M3N7E8037F2211\r\r>Z
323246383032M3N7E8037F2211\r\r>Z
4154505046464F4646I2LOK\r\r>Y
41545AI2L\r\rELM327 v2.2\r\r>Y
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y
4154535036I2LOK\r\r>Y
30313030G1H7E8064100981B8013\r7E906410098180001\r\r>X
41545348374530G1HOK\r\r>X
31303033M3N7E8037F1011\r\r>Z
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30393032M3N7E81014490201565353\r7E8215A5A5A4B4D5A4E\r7E82252303632323938\r\r>Z
323246383032M3N7E8037F2211\r\r>Z
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by eulogitos » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:39 am

Here's a screenshot
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Re: BETA test for 29bit init protocol

Post by admin » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:39 pm

eulogitos wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:39 am
Here's a screenshot
Thanks!

Did you voluntarily disable the soot mass measured field? Maybe you clicked on it without meaning to?

After this feedback I think I have to change the commands sequence to avoid the error after the 0100 request. This should remove the error popup for the supported 29-bit ID engines and make the connection free of warnings.

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