BETA test for 29bit init protocol

[pkost]

Hi friend,

Could you help me fix connection issue with my car, i have Skoda Octavia A8, 2020, with 2.0 tdi DSTB motor, i try to use few adapter, wich wor with Car scaner ok, but with DPF always show me error:

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Unable to communicate with engine ECU even with OBD2 protocol.
 
Possible causes:
- Car ignition off
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality
- Car not OBD2 compliant 
 
INIT LOG 
4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\r>Y 
41545AI2LATZ\r\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y 
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y 
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y 
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y 
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y 
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y 
4154535036I2LOK\r\r>Y 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
41545348374530G1HOK\r\r>X 
4154505046464F4646I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41545AI2L\r\rELM327 v1.5\r\r>Y 
415444I2LATD\r\rOK\r\r>Y 
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\r>Y 
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\r>Y 
41545330I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544C30I2LOK\r\r>Y 
4154415431I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544D30I2LOK\r\r>Y 
41544831I2LOK\r\r>Y 
4154535036I2LOK\r\r>Y 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
30313030G1HCAN ERROR\r\r>X 
4154535037I2LOK\r\r>Y 
415443503137G1HOK\r\r>X 
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X 
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r\r>X 
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r\r>X 
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r\r>X 
41544643534D31G1HOK\r\r>X 
4154414CG1HOK\r\r>X

[admin]

Car scanner should write a connection log, can you send me that? Also by email applagapp@gmail.com if you don't want to share with all here.

[luque]

Yes it is a low cost, it's a blue elm327 mini

When there isn't communication, it's quite impossibile to understand if the cause is the adapter of the wrong profile in the app, but as said, your engine worked for other users, so I think you could have the same result with a good adapter, replacing your low cost version.

Hello,

I have DSUD 2.0tdi and 3.39.12 app and I am not able to read data as you can see in screen. Any solution?

With my old car 1.6 tdi CAYC it is function.

Can you share the full log copying it in a txt file?
Did you try all engine groups?

Here,group97:
ECU responds to OBD2 requests but not to CAN ISO-15765 requests.

Possible causes:
- engine not supported
- ELM327 faulty or bad quality

**INIT LOG**
4154505046464F4646I2LATPPFFOFF\rOK\r\n>Y
41545AI2LATZ\rELM327 v1.5\r\n>Y
415444I2LATD\rOK\r\n>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\n>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\n>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\n>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r>Y
4154535036I2LOK\r>Y
30313030G1H7E8064100981BA013\r\r>X
4154535037I2LOK\r>Y
415443503137G1HOK\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r>X
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
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323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
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30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
4154505046464F4646I2LOK\r>Y
41545AI2LELM327 v1.5\r>Y
415444I2LOK\r\n>Y
415444I2LATD\rOK\r\n>Y
41545043I2LATPC\rOK\r\n>Y
41544530I2LATE0\rOK\r\n>Y
41545330I2LOK\r\n>Y
41544C30I2LOK\r>Y
4154415431I2LOK\r>Y
41544D30I2LOK\r>Y
41544831I2LOK\r>Y
4154535036I2LOK\r>Y
30313030G1H7E8064100981BA013\r\r>X
4154535037I2LOK\r>Y
415443503137G1HOK\r>X
41545348464330303736G1HOK\r>X
41544352413137464530303736G1HOK\r>X
4154464353483137464330303736G1HOK\r>X
415446435344333030303030G1HOK\r>X
41544643534D31G1HOK\r>X
4154414CG1HOK\r>X
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
31303033M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313837M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313839M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313931M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246314144M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246313937M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
30393032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z
323246383032M3NCAN ERROR\r>Z

[admin]

Here,group97:
ECU responds to OBD2 requests but not to CAN ISO-15765 requests.

DSUD has been confirmed as working with group 97 by misiakpb, you can find details in this topic:

Everything's fine, your engine DSUD is definitely supported.

Maybe you're using a low quality ELM adapter?
In the log I see a correct answer to a common OBD request, but errors answering to canbus requests. This is the typical behavior of a low quality adapter that works only with OBD2 apps.

[luque]

Here,group97:
ECU responds to OBD2 requests but not to CAN ISO-15765 requests.

DSUD has been confirmed as working with group 97 by misiakpb, you can find details in this topic:

Everything's fine, your engine DSUD is definitely supported.

Maybe you're using a low quality ELM adapter?
In the log I see a correct answer to a common OBD request, but errors answering to canbus requests. This is the typical behavior of a low quality adapter that works only with OBD2 apps.

OK. But which type of adapter we must use? Better said, what type of protocol is needed? I think, that OBDII is not full compatible and you do not give direct answer what is needed for new types of car. You only say that we have bad quality adapter - what does it mean? Is is not good answer. Thx

[admin]

Basically, every "real" ELM327 adapter works. The app requires an adapter that can manage all the commands specified by ELM electronics for its chip.
So where is the issue? The issue is in the "real" word written above: the most of the low cost adapters are fake, they use a cracked old firmware with reduced functionalities versus the full set of functions. This cracked firmware has been made to work with OBD2 apps that send/receive 2 bytes long data packets only. The ISO Canbus protocol supports up to 7 data bytes packet, but those low cost adapters can't manage it.
Then the common question is: how can I identify a cloned fake adapter? It's quite impossible because the companies who sell those adapters declare the full compatibility with all existing protocols in the world, of course. In my experience, the price usually reveals the adapter quality, with some exceptions that depends on how lucky you're in the choice.

To be 100% sure, I usually advise the Carista adapter (both old and new versions are good) because it's produced by a real company with a customer service and a replacement policy in case of fail. It's a little expensive, but it works for sure with all the diagnostic apps.
Further good adapters are the "Konnwei KW902" and the "Vgate iCar 2 Bluetooth" (please note that it requires to press a button to be powered on) that I tested personally.
If you want to spend less, the common strategy is to buy a low cost adapter from Amazon and return it back for free in case it doesn't work. Of course if you can take advantage of the experience of friends, receiving their advice, you can reduce the number of attempts.

[Kamil2513]

The application does not connect to this engine, can you help?

[admin]

The application does not connect to this engine, can you help?

What engine code?